Tag Archives: Abbotts Walk

Play Time!

I’ve had various conversations recently regarding the ‘Play Area’ on Abbotts Walk in the open area by the infiltration basin. I’ve done a bit of investigation over time, and to summarise the current position as I understand is that there will be an equipped play area built, but not until mid 2015 at the earliest.

When we first looked at the development one of the things we noted on the site plan (below) was a play area. Which with a 3 year old, at the time, it was a definite plus point.

playarea1 - siteplan

The immediate question that sprung to mind, was what did the plan mean by ‘informal’, the sales staff did not seem particularly knowledgeable on the subject. So after a bit of investigation on the Winchester City Planning website turned up the proposed play area plans.

PlayArea1 - proposed

The planning permission shows a fully equipped play area, so why had this been downgraded to an ‘informal’ one?

A bit more digging turned up the consultation response from the council’s landscape and open areas officer.


So the council had asked Redrow not to build the play area! Instead hand over some cash, the cynic in me says this would likely be funnelled off somewhere else into an overall city landscaping budget and we’d be left with some benches and wood bark. A bit further in to the sales process we had sight of the Section 106 agreement (specifically an amendment in Feb 2012), which details all the contributions the developer is required to make.

playarea s106

playarea s106 definition

So Winchester is being given a sum of £65,859 to build a play area and it very specifically has to be built on the site.

Additionally, the S106 also covered that there is a maintenance period of 1 year after the land is actually transferred to Winchester. So I wouldn’t expect the council to be able to build anything on the open space they’re receiving, certainly not until it had been legally transferred and most likely not until the maintenance period had expired.

With this I contacted Winchester Council to confirm these details and received a response from the landscape officer:

Dear Mr ——-

Thank you for your email. Your understanding of the arrangements for the provision of children’s play facilities at the Redrow development is correct. The s106 agreement included a sum of £65,859 to be paid by the developer to the City Council for the provision of play facilities on site, in lieu of them providing a facility themselves.

This amount has been ‘ring-fenced’ for this purpose but as you correctly state the development is some way off being completed and the land has not been transferred to the City Council yet. The intention would be to ensure that by the time the land was transferred a plan for a facility will have been agreed.

There has been no design work so far. However plans have progressed for the main area of open space to the rear of the development.

As the open space will also be available to adjacent residents, a meeting was held with some residents, elected Council Members, the developer and council officers on 20th March 2012. It was agreed that above all the main area of green space should be a safe area for children to use: well away from any vehicle manoeuvring area, enclosed and contained but well overlooked.

It was also agreed that there should be some formal play facility but only for the very young but that the specifics should wait until enough residents had moved-in before organising a consultation exercise.

So yes, you would be most welcome to contribute to the discussion when the time arrives however this will not be for at least another year to allow the developer to lay out the open space to a satisfactory condition and to maintain it for 12 months.

Call me should you need to discuss.

Stuart Dunbar-Dempsey CMLI
Open Space Project Officer
Winchester City Council


So it looks hopeful for a play area to be built at some point, but it will take a while. Hopefully it can use the existing planning permission, and the folks buying in that corner of the site are aware

Another concern was that one response from the council suggesting that the play area wouldn’t need fencing! http://planningapplications.winchester.gov.uk/Planning/652518.pdf . Personally, I hope there will be fencing as the meadow is likely to be used by dog walkers and the proximity to the infiltration basin, which currently isn’t as dry as it could/(should?) be.

4G or not 4G

I spend a fair bit of the working week in London, so have recently regarded my mobile contract to 4G on Vodafone. Not necessarily for increased speed, but more reduced network congestion and hopefully more coverage options (particularly in Waterloo station, where the mobile network falls over if there’s any serious rail delays and increase in users.)

As such, figured it would be useful to know when 4G is going to hit Winchester. Unfortunately, the near future doesn’t look that bright! There’s not much information publicly available/announced and the local stores don’t have any better info.

Ofcom have made it a license requirement that the networks reach 98% of the UK population by end 2017, which would almost certainly include Winchester. For the specific networks:

Vodafone :- [UPDATED] 4G enabled August 2014

O2 :- No specific information, targeting 98% coverage by 2015

EE :-  Planning to get to 98% coverage in 2014.

Three :- [Updated] Winchester is now on the list of cities Three are planning to launch 4G services in 2014. http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/When_will_I_get_4G

Planning Amendments

Just a summary of amendments to the plans that look to have been submitted to Winchester Council this year:

13/02590/NMA : Approved 21 Dec 13
Changes to number/location of trees in Public Open Space and addition of benches.

13/01394/NMA : Approved 17 Sep 13
Change Rear Boundary of plots 76,77,86,87 from brick wall to wooden fence.

13/01362/NMARejected 13 Aug 13
Retrospective change of Flint walls to Brick and Tile capping from Half round coping.

Sewage Update – Resolved

It has been a busy last few days, with some heated moments trying to get the road cleaned up from the sewage overflow.

The position on Saturday afternoon was that it couldn’t/wouldn’t  be disinfected. Thankfully by Monday morning there was a change of heart as reported by the Hamphire Chronicle here and the decision was made to disinfect the road.

We’ve also had the regional MD of Redrow sitting on our sofa, listening and believe genuinely trying to find out what had happened, gone wrong or right and what could be learnt.

A big thank you to the Hampshire Chronicle, Councillor Dominic Hiscock, and our MP Steve Brine for all their help in getting the right action in the end.

Have to admit the councillor and MP have gone some way to our restoring faith and trust in politicians.


What’s that smell?!

A foul smell filled the air over Abbotts Walk, Winchester yesterday.

Looking out, the problem was evident:

Sewage Flood
Sewage Flood

That’s the foul water (sewage) drain flooding up through the manhole, across the street and down Lea View. The house drains and toilets were also starting to make gurgling noises and bubble up, presumably trapped air.

So a trip up to the Sales office to notify them and get site on to the case. And just to be sure, notified Southern Water, however their response was that the drains had not been adopted by them yet and so were still the responsibility of Redrow. Their and other water companies normal procedures would be to aim to attend and clear the blockage within 12 hours then clear up and disinfect the area within 24  hours.

So cue a small flurry of activity. The trigger was identified as a contractor drilling through a water main somewhere else on site. With this stopped, most of the contaminated water drained down the road gullys to the infiltration basin that deals with the sites surface water, i.e. goes in to the groundwater by the River Itchen.

Can’t say i’m sure: a) how the leaking water from the main was entering the foul water system (that should be mostly sealed) and b) why it was overwhelming a 150mm drain?

The drain itself was blocked, and possibly had been for some time. So a few hours later a tanker arrived to pump out the drain and clear it. So well done Redrow on clearing the drain, but:

During the incident and after, the affected area was not cordoned off, or any barriers erected, signage or information posted. Contractors were driving and walking through standing pools of contaminated water spreading it around the development. Unwitting parents were pushing childrens buggies through and by early evening kids were riding the bicycles in the area. If Norovirus hits North Winchester, we’ll know where it started!

A road sweeper was sent round the morning, but didn’t disinfect the area and only swept the middle of the road, even missing the main leak area due to a parked contractor vehicle that was unaware.

Trying to get anyone in to action on a Friday afternoon/evening is always an uphill task, so who could deal with it or lodge a complaint with:

  • Redrow Site:-  Were doing thing their way in their time.
  • Redrow Emergency Customer Services Number :- Site should be dealing with it
  • Winchester Council :- Go to Hampshire County Council
  • Hampshire County Council :- Go to the Water board – Southern Water, Environemnt Agency
  • Environment Agency :- concerned only with surface water flow/contamination to the river.
  • Southern Water :- The drains aren’t adopted, so go to the developer.

So it ‘appears’ to be a circle with no accountability required. Having looked a bit further, I actually believe it’s Winchester City Council who have the statutory duty through its Environmental Health department to protect the public health and should have picked this up.

Another avenue has been our local Councillor, Dominic Hiscock, who we are grateful to. He came round on Saturday morning to find out more and I believe got equally frustrated by the ‘circle’ and lack of accountability. He does seem like a genuine and hard working councillor with an interest for residents, we might even vote for him 🙂

So no conclusion yet, and not sure where to go next on this one.